Suicide Does Not Bring Peace
This first paragraph from my blog, Relationship Breakups How to Cope, triggered a conversation about Suicide that I thought more people would be interested in.
Suicide will not take you were you believe you will be going, to a place of peace. Suicide is trying to escape from yourself, and you just cannot do it. Wherever you go, there you are. In the afterlife, you will not be in the heaven you think you will be in; you will still be enmeshed in your life’s troubles, because the afterlife is still life. It is just life in another dimension. And you will not have the ability to change your programming there. You will be stuck with it, playing out your dramas over and over until your next physical life begins. And in your next physical life you will set up the same dramas so that you can finally face the issues and move through them. So in reality you will have to walk through that fire all over again, face the same pain all over again, and finish the walk to the other side. Don’t do it!
How does ANYONE really know what the outcome of suicide is?
At any given moment, we are right where we are suppose to be… And, each of us eventually does leave our physical bodies to rejoin All That Is…
I know many of us have theories and beliefs about killing one self - mostly horrible beliefs with horrible believed outcomes…
Are we sure that these conditioned beliefs are not just that? Conditioned beliefs.?.?.?
This topic is something I have been theorizing about for about a year now…
Personally the doom and gloom theory does not “work” for me…
I am wondering if you are implying that suicide is not an option only IF it has to do with a relationship gone bad…
What about the terminally ill?
What if they decide to stop all forms of treatment, knowing that there body will cease to live by doing so?
Are they too doomed to such darkness on the “other side”?
What about the smokers of the world, are they not “killing” themselves each and every day?
Sure, it is not a quick gun shot to the head, but in the end, it is still the same, isn’t it?
I make these statements based on two thing:
1.Personal experience and remembrances of the other side…as dim as they may be.
2. The teaching of many masters I have read. Why do I trust they know what is what? Because they brought me quite a ways on my spiritual path, ie.. I got results, and I don’t believe their teachings could have brought me results if these masters did not know what they were talking about.
So in answer to your question…what I know is that we don’t magically change consciousness when we leave this realm. We loose our bodies, certainly, but those with open minds and some level of control over what their minds think do experience the same openness and control on the other side. Those without that control in their physical life still don’t have it in the afterlife. Thoughts manifest realities instantly on the other side. Thus these people who are in such a dire mental state remain in their dire mental state and manifest realities to support it.
As for those who have terminal illnesses, choosing to pull the plug on life support is different. Death occurs by natural means, previously it had been artificially sustained. Their mental state remains, but the body is gone. So if they suffered due only to their illness, the illness is gone and their suffering is gone too. But if they suffered due to unresolved psychological states of mind then they too have to deal with that on the other side.
This is not about being punished for killing yourself. This horible afterlife experience is not due to an edict passed down by God that says you must suffer for taking your own life…NO! It is about the fact that the dominant way you think is not going to change in the afterlife. It remains and it dominates your experience there. We change our thinking here and gain control of our minds here on the physical plane. Once we gain control of it, once we realize we can change our lives by changing our thinking, then we have the ability to do the same in the afterlife. But go ahead and ask people if they can change their reality by changing their mind…most people would say no. I have experience that says the opposite. I constantly and deliberately change my life experience and reality by changing my mind. I also have experienced, in this lifetime, NOT having this sort of control and being blown about by the winds of fate.
If you were a master and shot yourself in the head to end it all you would be fine on the otherside because you had control over your mind…but then a master can leave his body when he chooses and would not need to shoot himself in the head to leave this plane of existence.
Are not ALL illness’s created from some sort of unresolved psychological states of mind? EVERYTHING that is our life, IS created by our thoughts…Illness included…So, how is this scenario any different from any other?
I would say not in all cases, but in most cases yes. There are cases where masters are helping to balance the karmic load of a love one. In the book series, The Magus of Strovolos, Fire in the Heart, and Homage to the Sun Daskalos has an illness that he “suffers” with, in that he is stuck in bed and limited due to the illness. But he demonstrates to the author Kyriacos C. Markides he can turn it off at any time and be perfectly well, then he returns the illness to his body. Although this is not my own first hand experience, I trust the author and Daskalos that the experiences conveyed were accurate and did happen and their explanation of why they occurred. He does this to take some of the karmic load off a family member who would have died otherwise. This sort of thing can only work in the case where the other person had learned their life lesson, but still the momentum of energy was such that it had to be dealt with.
But lets look at the majority of the cases…
Most people cause their diseases for various reasons:
1. To understand the disease process and the experiences that go along with it.
2. To pay a karmic debt and learn the lesson that goes with paying that debt.
3. They simply have abused their own life force energy, and bodies, due to the ignorant way they used their mind and their actions in life. This is similar to 2 but not exactly the same.
In all three of these cases the person who dies from a disease has gone through the experience. It has transformed them in someway. When they passover, they no longer have a physical body. The emotional body that the do experience is whole. Often they think they have miraculously been healed from their disease. Most of these folks probably have not gained enlightenment or freedom to move as they please in the psychic (emotional) and noetic (mental) dimensions. They are bound by the confines of the predominant way they use their mind and manifest based upon that just like the one who commits suicide. But they completed their experience in a natural way.
A person who has committed suicide has not completed the challenge they set forth for themselves. Due to karma or due to a poor mental state they found themselves in circumstances that overwhelmed them and caused them to deliberately destroy their life. They thought they could escape the pain of the life they had created, but they have not learned what it takes to move beyond recreating that experience. So in their next life they will once again create such an experience. And in their afterlife they will still not be free of the mental state they are in exactly like the person who dies of disease is not past their mental state either. But usually the person who created the disease already learned their lesson, or most of it and their mental state was altered in a beneficial way by their experience.
Lets take Hit.ler as an example…He killed himself because he had lost his war and the rest of the world would soon be coming to take him away, to ridicule him and abuse him and kill him. Certainly on the other side Hit.ler was creating war, victimizing others, and dealing with the energy of that experience. Did he suffer? Well perhaps not like a Christian might think. He probably had a grand time victimizing others. But did he know God like a great Yogi does? I doubt it.
Then he returns in the life of 13ush and recreates the same experience all over again. Will he kill himself this time when he finally looses, or will he face the world he created and deal with it and fully experience the anger and hatred he created in others?
First I must say….
Love the 13ush/Hit.ler theory….
I believe that without even having to “decide”…Second…
How can we be certain that the person who commits suicide is not indeed facing the very “challenge” they set forth to accomplish in this life?I’ve heard it called “soul contracts” and “sacred contracts”…. but, could it not be possible that suicide was what that person came here to do? Maybe as a “lesson” for someone in their lives? Maybe a contract was set forth between the two “souls” before manifesting here in this reality? Maybe the act itself goes according to the plan they themselves chose for their “dance” this time around on the big stage…???
What if I personally wanted to experience the experience of a loved one who kills themselves as one of MY “soul contracts”… Would that “experience” not have to be fulfilled by someone in order for me to experience mine?????
You obviously think a lot and in depth about things. Bravo. Be sure to feel too. Just a caution from personal experience…thinkers tend not to feel as much and need to make more of an effort to do so.
I’ll admit there are probably cases where a soul chooses to experience killing themselves and also there are those who choose to experience a loved one killing themselves.
But still we come down to the real point to my original statement and that is death is not going to magically transform you. You will leave with whatever consciousness you have, whatever abilities you have attained or have not attained.
When making the choice to commit suicide or not, I doubt the person themselves would have enough awareness to realize this is a soul choice they are making. They would probably just feel an overwhelming compulsion to do so. If they were so evolved as to be clearly in touch with their inner voice I find it very unlikely that they would be in a place of wanting to experience suicide.
As for the one who wishes to experience the suicide of another Law of Attraction would most likely hook them up with someone who is hell bent on doing so anyways. Someone who even after reading such advice as I have given would blow me off as crazy, would still believe that sweet oblivion would come or they would be with God and all would be well.
My original statements are for the person who is making the decision based upon the idea that they can free themselves from the horrors of their physical life, which I would guess to be most cases, they are attempting the impossible.
Love and Blessings,
Michael Skowronski
Author of Unforgettable: A Love and Spiritual Growth Story
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